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Inquiries drop from 4 to 3 --> EX FICO 8 +7

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SouthJamaica
Mega Contributor

Inquiries drop from 4 to 3 --> EX FICO 8 +7

Today my EX scorable inquiries dropped from 4 to 3, and my EX FICO 8 gained 7 points. 

 

This contradicts my previous theory that 3-5 is a bin, since under that theory dropping from 4 to 3 should have been a non-event.

 

This supports a theory that @Thomas_Thumb postulated that 4-5 is a bin.

 

Based on my recent experience with EQ, it now appears to me that 3 is a threshold all by itself. I.e. dropping to 3 gains points, and dropping from 3 to 2 gains points. Most likely I'll be finding out shortly if what happened with EQ will also happen with EX.


Total revolving limits 710800 (590300 reporting) FICO 8: EQ 712 TU 710 EX 710

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keekers
Established Contributor

Re: Inquiries drop from 4 to 3 --> EX FICO 8 +7

Thanks for sharing.


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FicoMike0
Established Contributor

Re: Inquiries drop from 4 to 3 --> EX FICO 8 +7

Thanks for the data. I've got some drops coming in june, I'll plan to watch the impact.

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CorpCrMgr1
Valued Contributor

Re: Inquiries drop from 4 to 3 --> EX FICO 8 +7

Gaining points is always good!

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Thomas_Thumb
Senior Contributor

Re: Inquiries drop from 4 to 3 --> EX FICO 8 +7


@SouthJamaica wrote:

Today my EX scorable inquiries dropped from 4 to 3, and my EX FICO 8 gained 7 points. 

 

This contradicts my previous theory that 3-5 is a bin, since under that theory dropping from 4 to 3 should have been a non-event.

 

This supports a theory that @Thomas_Thumb postulated that 4-5 is a bin.

 

Based on my recent experience with EQ, it now appears to me that 3 is a threshold all by itself. I.e. dropping to 3 gains points, and dropping from 3 to 2 gains points. Most likely I'll be finding out shortly if what happened with EQ will also happen with EX.


ExpatCanuck reported going from 4 to 5 and losing 7 points. But, he then mentions 4 were less than 12 months. So, in reality he went from 3 scoreable to 4 scoreable which supports 4 being a threshold.

 

So data between you two supports 4-5 as a bin. As of now it is looking like

0, 1, 2, 3, 4-5, 6-9 and 10+ for bins. More data is needed by others. I suspect some profiles may not see a score penalty at all the above thresholds.

Fico 9: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 8: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 4 .....:. EQ 809 TU 823 EX 830 EX Fico 98: 842
Fico 8 BC:. EQ 892 TU 900 EX 900
Fico 8 AU:. EQ 887 TU 897 EX 899
Fico 4 BC:. EQ 826 TU 858, EX Fico 98 BC: 870
Fico 4 AU:. EQ 831 TU 872, EX Fico 98 AU: 861
VS 3.0:...... EQ 835 TU 835 EX 835
CBIS: ........EQ LN Auto 940 EQ LN Home 870 TU Auto 902 TU Home 950
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keekers
Established Contributor

Re: Inquiries drop from 4 to 3 --> EX FICO 8 +7

For whatever it's worth I went from 0 scoreable (1 total) to 3 scoreable (4 total) last month and my scores didn't budge.


Message 6 of 18
SouthJamaica
Mega Contributor

Re: Inquiries drop from 4 to 3 --> EX FICO 8 +7


@Thomas_Thumb wrote:

@SouthJamaica wrote:

Today my EX scorable inquiries dropped from 4 to 3, and my EX FICO 8 gained 7 points. 

 

This contradicts my previous theory that 3-5 is a bin, since under that theory dropping from 4 to 3 should have been a non-event.

 

This supports a theory that @Thomas_Thumb postulated that 4-5 is a bin.

 

Based on my recent experience with EQ, it now appears to me that 3 is a threshold all by itself. I.e. dropping to 3 gains points, and dropping from 3 to 2 gains points. Most likely I'll be finding out shortly if what happened with EQ will also happen with EX.


ExpatCanuck reported going from 4 to 5 and losing 7 points. But, he then mentions 4 are less than 12 months. So, in reality he went from 3 scoreable to 4 scoreable which supports 4 being a threshold.

 

So data between you two supports 4-5 as a bin. As of now it is looking like

0, 1, 2, 3, 4-5, 6-9 and 10+ for bins. More data is needed by others. I suspect some profiles may not see a score penalty at all the above thresholds.


I knew you could make sense out of it. So far, my experiences are consistent with 4-5 and with 3.


Total revolving limits 710800 (590300 reporting) FICO 8: EQ 712 TU 710 EX 710

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SouthJamaica
Mega Contributor

Re: Inquiries drop from 4 to 3 --> EX FICO 8 +7


@keekers wrote:
For whatever it's worth I went from 0 scoreable (1 total) to 3 scoreable (4 total) last month and my scores didn't budge.

I believe it takes 45 30 days for the impact to be felt from new inquiries.


Total revolving limits 710800 (590300 reporting) FICO 8: EQ 712 TU 710 EX 710

Message 8 of 18
Thomas_Thumb
Senior Contributor

Re: Inquiries drop from 4 to 3 --> EX FICO 8 +7


@SouthJamaica wrote:

@keekers wrote:
For whatever it's worth I went from 0 scoreable (1 total) to 3 scoreable (4 total) last month and my scores didn't budge.

I believe it takes 45 days for the impact to be felt from new inquiries.


I believe the buffer (delay in counting toward score) is 30 days. The Dedupe where multiple inquiries count as 1 HP for installment loans is 45 days for Fico 8. The Dedupe does not apply to revolving credit HPs.

 

Unfortunately poster data often does not consider these nuisances. Or, as in ExpatCanucks case, the headline says going 4 => 5 lowered score but, the post then mentions 1 inq was over 12 months. Data can be misleading if not vetted.

 

 

 

 

Fico 9: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 8: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 4 .....:. EQ 809 TU 823 EX 830 EX Fico 98: 842
Fico 8 BC:. EQ 892 TU 900 EX 900
Fico 8 AU:. EQ 887 TU 897 EX 899
Fico 4 BC:. EQ 826 TU 858, EX Fico 98 BC: 870
Fico 4 AU:. EQ 831 TU 872, EX Fico 98 AU: 861
VS 3.0:...... EQ 835 TU 835 EX 835
CBIS: ........EQ LN Auto 940 EQ LN Home 870 TU Auto 902 TU Home 950
Message 9 of 18
SouthJamaica
Mega Contributor

Re: Inquiries drop from 4 to 3 --> EX FICO 8 +7


@Thomas_Thumb wrote:

@SouthJamaica wrote:

@keekers wrote:
For whatever it's worth I went from 0 scoreable (1 total) to 3 scoreable (4 total) last month and my scores didn't budge.

I believe it takes 45 days for the impact to be felt from new inquiries.


I believe the buffer (delay in counting toward score) is 30 days. The Dedupe where multiple inquiries count as 1 HP for installment loans is 45 days for Fico 8. The Dedupe does not apply to revolving credit HPs.

 

Unfortunately poster data often does not consider these nuisances. Or, as in ExpatCanucks case, the headline says going 4 => 5 lowered score but, the post then mentions 1 inq was over 12 months. Data can be misleading if not vetted.

 

 

 

 


I stand corrected. Thank you.


Total revolving limits 710800 (590300 reporting) FICO 8: EQ 712 TU 710 EX 710

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